Ню Орлеанс, август-септември 2005
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| Отварям тази тема за Фани, за която Ню Орленас е вече история, а не бъдеще, и за всички нас, които все още не вярваме на очите си като гледаме репортажите на CNN. |
Въобще не съм сигурен дали картинките не биха паснали по-добре в темата за бирата отатък, ама кво да правиш, природни стихии...   Илюстрация на поговорката вода гази жаден ходи.  И на сушата жаждата е голяма. Милър Лайт не е най-доброто, ама каквото намерили, това взели.  И никва българщина. Ще ми отварят суперите с други марки. Алооу, нема ли Балканкар за вас, бе?  |
Да ви кажа - у новия Орлеанс вече си е ебало мамата .... Ихтиманското е нищо .... 'ного зли тия алабански циганье, бре .... ауууу  |
| Всеки природен катаклизъм, стоварил се върху главите на много хора, има страшни лица, различни, предизвиква различни чувства у нас и мащабите на трагедията, и всичко това, което ни свива гърлото, може да бъде много различно. Като оставям настрана големите глобални дискусии за отговорността, за низките страни на човешката природа, искам тук да прегърна Фани и сладката й дъщеричка (Брайън няма да гушкам, че Фани квато е яка....  ), да погаля спасените й котки, и да споделя какво си помислих първо, като течаха първите съобщения за урагана, не толкова зловещи, колкото се очертават в следващите дни. Ето тук, преди по-малко от седмица, кажи речи три дни преди нещастието, Фани пусна картинки от чудесната си градина, отглеждана с толкова много любов - и компетентност (последното е и генетично...  ) .Не ми се мисли какво е станало с градинката, макар, че е ясно...  Тази градинка и хоръра, който наблюдаваме в последните дни ....... Редактирано от - Геновева на 02/9/2005 г/ 15:19:33 |
| Веф, твойто тук не се отваря, има 4 броя / щото: http:////forum.segabg............ А иначе важна новина по случая: bTV, 12:00 Новините:  В Ню Орлеанс са командировани 300 командоси, служили в Ирак, които имат заповед да стрелят на месо!!! [/size=2] Редактирано от - bot на 02/9/2005 г/ 18:40:22 |
| Мэр Нового Орлеана: Они не представляют, что здесь происходит ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- 02.09 16:33 | MIGnews.com ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Президент США Джордж Буш оказался под напором яростной критики за недостаточную активность в деле ликвидации последствий урагана Катрина. Рэй Нагин, мэр Нового Орлеана, подвергшегося наиболее серьезным разрушениям из-за урагана, резко отозвался об администрации США: "Они просто не представляют, что здесь происходит!" Это заявление было сделано за день до планируемой поездки Джорджа Буша в города, пострадавшие от урагана. Буш уже осмотрел разрушенные районы во время своего полета из Техаса в Вашингтон. Напомним, что в связи с ураганом он сократил свой отпуск, который президент проводил на собственном ранчо в Техасе, на два дня. "Они все прибыли сюда через два дня после того, как весь этот кошмар был показан этими проклятыми телекамерами, этими проклятыми репортерами! – заявил Нагин. – И да простит вся Америка "мой французский", но я просто вне себя!". (Мэр употребил более сильное, но значительно менее цензурное выражение). Он отметил, что сказал президенту в их недавней беседе: "У нас здесь произошел невероятный кризис, и ваш облет вокруг пострадавшего района совсем не воздает этому должное. Я успел проинспектировать весь город, я вне себя, потому что мы просто не можем рассредоточить необходимые ресурсы, мы просто не справляемся с масштабом случившегося". Глава федеральной спасательной службы Майкл Браун сообщил, что оказание помощи пострадавшим идет полным ходом. "Я понимаю расстройство мэра, - отметил он. – Мы непрерывно отправляем продукты, воду и предметы первой необходимости пострадавшим, вчера вечером в стадион Superdome доставили пять грузовиков с провизией, чтобы прокормить более 50 человек, находящихся там. Мы столкнулись с беспрецедентным стихийным бедствием". |
| Национальная гвардия США получила приказ стрелять в мародеров ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- 02.09 06:48 | MIGnews.com ----------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- Губернатор штата Луизиана Кэтлин Бланко предупредила мародеров и грабителей, бесчинствующих в пострадавшем от урагана Новом Орлеане, что войска Национальной гвардии получили приказ "стрелять на поражение", чтобы положить конец необузданному насилию и произволу. Объявляя о прибытии в Новый Орлеан 300 арканзанских гвардейцев, которые недавно проходили службу в Ираке, Бланко сказала: "Эти войска проверены в бою, они вооружены винтовками М-16 и другим боевыми средствами". "Эти войска знают, как стрелять и как убивать, и я ожидаю, что они будут это делать", - сказала она, имея в виду отстрел мародеров. По последним данным, в городе царит хаос: на улицах валяются трупы, а банды грабят магазины и дома эвакуированных людей. |
| Първи важен факт благодарение на Ню Орлиънс/ По крадците се стреля на месо, дори когато са чернилки Да видим какви още нарушения на демокрацията и човешките свободи и права ще има. _______________________ "Ако народът не вярва на управниците си, те не могат да останат на власт." Конфуций |
| Надали Фани ни чете..но все пак : Да сте живи и здрави ти, Брайън, майка ти и детенце. Всичко останало все пак се нарежда. |
| Крадците, Кайле, са само черни, както и жертвите, които гледаме по ТВ - в Орлийнс имаше 68% черни, а хората, които не са се евакуирали като Фани, са най-бедните, най-болните, с бебета, инвалидите, наркоманите (които най-вече съставят "криминалния контингент"...) и др. "нелегални". * Ще напомня, че тези черни са внуци на робите, докарвани насила от Африка и продавани на търг в Орлийнс и другите пристанища на юга. * Слагам няколко материала от Ню Йорк Таймс.
Редактирано от - Чичо Фичо на 03/9/2005 г/ 00:42:51 |
| September 2, 2005 A Can't-Do Government By PAUL KRUGMAN Before 9/11 the Federal Emergency Management Agency listed the three most likely catastrophic disasters facing America: a terrorist attack on New York, a major earthquake in San Francisco and a hurricane strike on New Orleans. "The New Orleans hurricane scenario," The Houston Chronicle wrote in December 2001, "may be the deadliest of all." It described a potential catastrophe very much like the one now happening. So why were New Orleans and the nation so unprepared? After 9/11, hard questions were deferred in the name of national unity, then buried under a thick coat of whitewash. This time, we need accountability. First question: Why have aid and security taken so long to arrive? Katrina hit five days ago - and it was already clear by last Friday that Katrina could do immense damage along the Gulf Coast. Yet the response you'd expect from an advanced country never happened. Thousands of Americans are dead or dying, not because they refused to evacuate, but because they were too poor or too sick to get out without help - and help wasn't provided. Many have yet to receive any help at all. There will and should be many questions about the response of state and local governments; in particular, couldn't they have done more to help the poor and sick escape? But the evidence points, above all, to a stunning lack of both preparation and urgency in the federal government's response. Even military resources in the right place weren't ordered into action. "On Wednesday," said an editorial in The Sun Herald in Biloxi, Miss., "reporters listening to horrific stories of death and survival at the Biloxi Junior High School shelter looked north across Irish Hill Road and saw Air Force personnel playing basketball and performing calisthenics. Playing basketball and performing calisthenics!" Maybe administration officials believed that the local National Guard could keep order and deliver relief. But many members of the National Guard and much of its equipment - including high-water vehicles - are in Iraq. "The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission," a Louisiana Guard officer told reporters several weeks ago. Second question: Why wasn't more preventive action taken? After 2003 the Army Corps of Engineers sharply slowed its flood-control work, including work on sinking levees. "The corps," an Editor and Publisher article says, citing a series of articles in The Times-Picayune in New Orleans, "never tried to hide the fact that the spending pressures of the war in Iraq, as well as homeland security - coming at the same time as federal tax cuts - was the reason for the strain." In 2002 the corps' chief resigned, reportedly under threat of being fired, after he criticized the administration's proposed cuts in the corps' budget, including flood-control spending. Third question: Did the Bush administration destroy FEMA's effectiveness? The administration has, by all accounts, treated the emergency management agency like an unwanted stepchild, leading to a mass exodus of experienced professionals. Last year James Lee Witt, who won bipartisan praise for his leadership of the agency during the Clinton years, said at a Congressional hearing: "I am extremely concerned that the ability of our nation to prepare for and respond to disasters has been sharply eroded. I hear from emergency managers, local and state leaders, and first responders nearly every day that the FEMA they knew and worked well with has now disappeared." I don't think this is a simple tale of incompetence. The reason the military wasn't rushed in to help along the Gulf Coast is, I believe, the same reason nothing was done to stop looting after the fall of Baghdad. Flood control was neglected for the same reason our troops in Iraq didn't get adequate armor. At a fundamental level, I'd argue, our current leaders just aren't serious about some of the essential functions of government. They like waging war, but they don't like providing security, rescuing those in need or spending on preventive measures. And they never, ever ask for shared sacrifice. Yesterday Mr. Bush made an utterly fantastic claim: that nobody expected the breach of the levees. In fact, there had been repeated warnings about exactly that risk. So America, once famous for its can-do attitude, now has a can't-do government that makes excuses instead of doing its job. And while it makes those excuses, Americans are dying. E-mail: krugman@nytimes.com Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company |
| September 1, 2005 The Storm After the Storm By DAVID BROOKS Hurricanes come in two waves. First comes the rainstorm, and then comes what the historian John Barry calls the "human storm" - the recriminations, the political conflict and the battle over compensation. Floods wash away the surface of society, the settled way things have been done. They expose the underlying power structures, the injustices, the patterns of corruption and the unacknowledged inequalities. When you look back over the meteorological turbulence in this nation's history, it's striking how often political turbulence followed. In 1889 in Pennsylvania, a great flood washed away much of Johnstown. The water's crushing destruction sounded to one person like a "lot of horses grinding oats." Witnesses watched hundreds of people trapped on a burning bridge, forced to choose between burning to death or throwing themselves into the churning waters to drown. The flood was so abnormal that the country seemed to have trouble grasping what had happened. The national media were filled with wild exaggerations and fabrications: stories of rivers dammed with corpses, of children who died while playing ring-around-the-rosy and who were found with their hands still clasped and with smiles still on their faces. Prejudices were let loose. Hungarians then were akin to today's illegal Mexican immigrants - hard-working people who took jobs no one else wanted. Newspapers carried accounts of gangs of Hungarian men cutting off dead women's fingers to steal their rings. "Drunken Hungarians, Dancing, Singing, Cursing and Fighting Amid the Ruins" a New York Herald headline blared. Then, as David McCullough notes in "The Johnstown Flood," public fury turned on the Pittsburgh millionaires whose club's fishing pond had emptied on the town. The Chicago Herald depicted the millionaires as Roman aristocrats, seeking pleasure while the poor died like beasts in the Coliseum. Even before the flood, public resentment was building against the newly rich industrialists. Protests were growing against the trusts, against industrialization and against the new concentrations of wealth. The Johnstown flood crystallized popular anger, for the fishing club was indeed partly to blame. Public reaction to the disaster helped set the stage for the progressive movement and the trust-busting that was to come. In 1900, another great storm hit the U.S., killing over 6, 000 people in Galveston, Tex. The storm exposed racial animosities, for this time stories (equally false) swept through the press accusing blacks of cutting off the fingers of corpses to steal wedding rings. The devastation ended Galveston's chance to beat out Houston as Texas' leading port. Then in 1927, the great Mississippi flood rumbled down upon New Orleans. As Barry writes in his account, "Rising Tide," the disaster ripped the veil off the genteel, feudal relations between whites and blacks, and revealed the festering iniquities. Blacks were rounded up into work camps and held by armed guards. They were prevented from leaving as the waters rose. A steamer, the Capitol, played "Bye Bye Blackbird" as it sailed away. The racist violence that followed the floods helped persuade many blacks to move north. Civic leaders intentionally flooded poor and middle-class areas to ease the water's pressure on the city, and then reneged on promises to compensate those whose homes were destroyed. That helped fuel the populist anger that led to Huey Long's success. Across the country people demanded that the federal government get involved in disaster relief, helping to set the stage for the New Deal. The local civic elite turned insular and reactionary, and New Orleans never really recovered its preflood vibrancy. We'd like to think that the stories of hurricanes and floods are always stories of people rallying together to give aid and comfort. And, indeed, each of America's great floods has prompted a popular response both generous and inspiring. But floods are also civic examinations. Amid all the stories that recur with every disaster - tales of sudden death and miraculous survival, the displacement and the disease - there is also the testing. Civic arrangements work or they fail. Leaders are found worthy or wanting. What's happening in New Orleans and Mississippi today is a human tragedy. But take a close look at the people you see wandering, devastated, around New Orleans: they are predominantly black and poor. The political disturbances are still to come. E-mail: dabrooks@nytimes.com Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company |
И какво искаш да кажеш с това, Фичо, че крадците са само черни?  _______________________ "Ако народът не вярва на управниците си, те не могат да останат на власт." Конфуций |
| Ами да, така се получава, че са само черни. И няма нищо противоестествено в това. Представете си, иде бедствие, предупреждават Пловдив да се евакуира, Столипиново обаче не ще. И после като дойде потопа, какъв цвят ще са и крадците, и пострадалите? Очевидно. |
| В извънредната си емисия на девети т.м. Радио "Абана либре" съобщи, че е създадено обединенито "За По-нови Орлеан". Инициатори са организациите за защита на приматите, регистрирани в Матанза' и Ихтиман. Информацията беше потвърдена от Чукотското представителство на Обединение "Християнренегати". |
въх, Ню-Орлеанска революционери, значи.... ами нали са им потопени релсите, къде ще полагат морни главици....  , значи нещо като Орлеански деви ли...Редактирано от - Геновева на 03/9/2005 г/ 12:55:56 |