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03 Август 2002 09:51
malko im e na pa; estintzite a ti kojuhuev umri dano koga si bil ti tuk v raiona che da znaesh kakvo stava be laino. v arabskite strani vinagi ama vinagi sa mrazeli izrael a ti si tup ako ne si go znael tova be lainar debel. tziganin mrusen i zadrusten
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03 Август 2002 11:06
Чифутчето нарекло се Samo CSKA, да се прекръсти на Само Макаби-Тел Авив или на Само Левски, тези отбори са на жидове.Не петни името на българският армейски тим юдейски измекярино!
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03 Август 2002 12:45
peter pan e idiotsko govedo i kato go kastrirali pochnal da se oplakva
no te razbiram zashto si tolkova zadrusten idiot. to takiva kato teb gi ebat v gaza i posle pitat shto boli |
03 Август 2002 17:18
Къде го LAIO?
LAIO прочети тези две статии САЩ-Израел-Палестина и Ефекът Катерпилър Имай предвид, че професор Ноам Чомски е доста известен в САЩ. Дори и да не си съгласен с фактите и представянето им, тези статии значително ще разширят кръгозора ти. Редактирано от - psg на 03/8/2002 г/ 17:28:22 |
03 Август 2002 18:38
nadiavam se che horata pisali tezi statii znaiat izobshto za kakvo govoriat i che niakoga sa poseshtavali durjavata izrael pone v stranitzite v internet!
spored men samo si sediat na shibania amerikanski nadut ot hamburgeri zadnitzi i se chudiat kakva glupost da napishat!!! koi dade na palestintzite zdravni usigurovki i plashtania za bezrabotni i uchilishta i vsicko ostanalo!? v koia druga arabska durjava go ima tova!? i zashto vsichkite pomoshti koito poluchavat gi pribira edno kopele narecheno araffat i pochti nishto ne stiga do prostia narod!? i zashto sadam plashta na samoubiitzite da se vzriviavat v avtobusi i navsiakude!? zashtoto sa tupi arabi |
03 Август 2002 20:13
ЦСКА, наистина ти е много ниско челото. С тези елементарни разсъждения и изблик на злоба трябва да си само някъде от шоплъка. Арабите са хора като всички останали, тези глупости дето ми ги говориш за помощите и осигуровки (да пише се осигуровки, а не усигуровки) просто не са вярни. Къде отива $3 милиардната ежегодна помощ за Израел - за въоръжаване. Не че одобрявам самоубийците, но в зависимост от гледната точка можеш да ги виждаш като терористи или като борци за национално освобождение. Наистина вземи да прочетеш статиите от предишния ми постинг, за да се поограмотиш малко. Мога да ти пратя и още. Недей така да се пениш, че мърсиш форума.
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03 Август 2002 22:52
ПСГ, прочетох част от една от статиите и честно да ти призная, просто нямах сили да я прочета до край... Написана е така елегантно, изящно и просто...тъпо...
Всичко в статията почва от ...1967...Еврейската държава е създадена ...1948... Какво става тогава? Всички арабски държави, се втурват да помагат на новосъздадената полу-комунистическа страна, пращат помощи, медикаменти... цццц. Какво става 1967 и до нея? Пак същата велика помощ от братята араби - дайте да окъпем израелците в морето, че виждаш ли отдавна не са се къпали... Сигурно тези неща така биха изглеждали в тази статия, само че данни за тях липсват някак си...Сигурно грешка на редактора, пропуснал е тоя кратък период... Та можеш ли сега да ми обясниш, как може да се убедя че арабите са добронамерени и ми желаят доброто? Атаките продължават! Ако нямаше тероризъм нямаше да има и ответни реакции. Знам какво ще кажеш - няма тероризъм, има напълно законна защита... И Израел има право на защита и го опражнява. Америка помага на Израел, защото това е последната нормална държава на портата на света. След Израел, човек отива в средните векове, там където наистина няма нищо - одри английски не учат там. Аз имам връзка с интернет и трудно можеш да ме наречеш дизинформиран.... това е от мене. но има още доста............................................. |
04 Август 2002 10:02
''A Palestinian state is the only road to peace''
Printed on Thursday, August 01, 2002 @ 00:05:45 EDT http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=550 By Ash Pulcifer YellowTimes.org Columnist (United States) (YellowTimes.org) – Nine days after Israel's devastating attack on Palestinian civilians and a known Hamas militant in Gaza, the Palestinian extremist group Hamas quickly claimed credit for a bomb unleashed in Hebrew University's school cafeteria on July 31. At least seven people were killed and more than eighty wounded. According to a report from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Jerusalem's Deputy Police Chief Ilan Franco stated that this was believed to be an explosive device rather than a suicide bomber. The same report quoted Abdel Aziz Rantisi, a leading Hamas figure: "Now [the Israelis] are paying the price of killing our children, women and leaders." This cycle of violence will continue as long as world leaders continue to drag their feet over the creation of a Palestinian state, watching as more innocent Israeli and Palestinian civilians are murdered. Moreover, as long as the Bush administration, being the primary supporter of Israel, continues to cower away from making a bold policy decision in the Israel-Palestine conflict, the longer the stench of death will hang over Israel and the Occupied Territories. The mainstream media in the United States, while decrying the injustice caused by Palestinian militants, has failed to recognize or comment on the injustice caused by the Sharon government. While correctly condemning the tactics of suicide bombers and with the exception of the recent barbaric attack on Gaza, the media has continually failed to scold the Sharon government for its murderous assaults on both Palestinians and all those who aid the Palestinian movement for the creation of a state alongside Israel. Frequently, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have shot unarmed human rights activists from Europe, the United States and elsewhere who have marched with the general Palestinian population. Even well-known and credible news agencies have been subject to hostile responses from the IDF, as seen in a CNN news report of April 5 titled "Israeli troops throw stun grenades at journalists." According to this report, CNN's Michael Holmes reported that "two Israeli military jeeps pulled up along with another unmarked car and ordered the journalists to leave, but not all members of the group heard what the soldiers said. At that point, about six stun grenades were thrown into the midst of the journalists by Israeli soldiers." Even as the journalists drove away in five armored media vehicles, Holmes stated that "the soldiers fired rubber-coated bullets on them. … Two bullets struck the back of the vehicle being driven by the CNN crew, damaging a rear window." We don't have to imagine how the IDF responds to less-prominent media crews who are known to favor the Palestinians. These reporters have been shot with live bullets and, in some cases, murdered by IDF snipers with their cameras still clutched in their dying hands. The explanation of the Sharon government for these acts of extreme violence always circles around the fact that Israel is in a time of war and anyone on the modern battlefield could be subjected to accidental shooting or harassment; however, these explanations are not acceptable. The internationals, along with the media, are there because they have read reports of hundreds of Palestinian innocents who have been killed by the IDF, only to be written off as collateral damage. Israeli or American press reports somehow always come to the conclusion that the state of Israel does not target civilians. Unfortunately, whether they target civilians does not change the fact that hundreds of Palestinian innocents are dying directly and indirectly due to Israeli policy – a rate much steeper than that for Israeli innocents. Despite both sides having blood on their hands, the mainstream media in the United States still fails to label irrational acts of violence by the Israeli government upon Palestinian civilians as acts of terrorism; in fact, they will not even call it injustice. The media, along with the Bush administration, continues to point out that Israel is fighting against terror and that their means are justified. Frankly, the Palestinians believe it is they, not the Israelis, who are fighting terrorism. But how many more suicide bombings and murdered Israeli civilians will it take for the proponents of current Israeli policy to realize that terror only fuels the flames for more terror? No matter how many assassinations, no matter how many more curfews enforced by sniper fire, no matter how many more helicopter gunship and F-16 bombings, no matter how many more tank attack and destroy missions into refugee camps: the Sharon government will not be able to stop the anger of Palestinian militants who will unleash their fury on any available Israeli target. Benedict Carey from the Los Angeles Times, in an article published on July 30, 2002, confirmed the belief that terror creates terror. In "Method without madness?" Carey studied the motives behind suicide bombers. His conclusions were that "people who have witnessed or been subjected to violence are particularly susceptible to [suicide bombing] … the families of Palestinian suicide bombers often cite motives of revenge for a father or brother killed or beaten by Israeli soldiers." According to this logic, what the Sharon government is doing is turning more Palestinian civilians into Palestinian militants as more and more Palestinians are exposed to extreme amounts of violence and hardship that come with the constant occupational and oppressive conditions they are forced to endure. The best way to alleviate these horrible conditions is for Israel to give up the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinian leadership. Judging by the history of independence movements, the Palestinian people will not stop their quest for self-determination until they receive it. It is up to the United States government, being the primary supplier of Israel's war and oppression machine, to pressure the Sharon government into reaching out for peace. [Ash Pulcifer, a lifelong activist for international human rights, lives in the United States. Ash finds it unacceptable that the world often turns its back to those less fortunate members of our species who live in poverty.] |
04 Август 2002 10:54
do psg
moitre izblitzi na zloba za zaradi tova che po goliamata chast ot horata koito pishat tuk izobshto ne gi prejiviavat i izobshto neznait kakvo e teroristichen atentat!!!! puk i ako tova e borba za osvobojdenie zashto ne pochnat otkriti voenni deistvia kakto v kosovo i chechnia i na oshte podobni mesta po sveta? skoro biah gledal po televiziata govoreshe arabin koito neiska da se suzdava palestinska durjava zashtoto tam niama da ima nikakvo osigurovki i nishto koeto poluchava pod izraelsko opravlenie. taka che ne mi kazvai che e borba za svoboda zashtoto mnenieto na goliama chast ot arabite v izreal e tochno takova a az poznavam i dosta arabi ako tova te interesuva |
04 Август 2002 11:26
за Ано10, както и за всички любители на арабското войнско движение, искам да съобщя за голяма победа на Палестинската мирна армия - нападнат е граждански автобуис между два големи града, 10 убити и 40 ранени за сега...
САмият автобус едва ли може да се каже че същесвува вече... С подобна война незнам дали се постига мир, със сигурност роднините на тези 50 човека едва ли вече ще искат мир, нито техните приятели, нито приятелите на техните приятели...Всяко нещо си има граници... |